Varibash

we are starting fresh, to feed new guys more gear (lyntha still low, dzt will be low, and new locks and hunters need weapons and such.) Really think if we do aswell as we did last week, we can kill Malk tonight and have all day tomorrow to killed Thok and Spoils.

update your wishlist

all it took was Mort's GF to be gkicked, moot and androng to quit, and bringing in a trial DK tank for his first night of raiding with us..... odd combination, but it worked.

Fuck this boss, good job guys.

this sounds more like Pyrise talking then Mortel.

Covering a swing shift for a friend, won't be on for raid these nights. Will be on the next week though. and a picture to lighten the mood.

lol, forgot the R

Just make sure you and snugg use plenty of lube, friction burns can hurt.

game of thrones is this sunday *cough cough*

I know for a fact most of the time myself and justicemaker will stand in it when a wipe is called, way more then half my deaths to it were intentional when a wipe was called. As for replacements.... what replacements, we has 1 person we could have subbed in and we subbed him out for failing mechanics...... That's why I said people NEED to start posting if they will be afk so we know who is just skipping progression attempts

Gonna Miss you man, don't die!

I love you justice, you get it. Please don't ever leave.

I think I want to go with the "Veteran Raider" idea suggested in this thread. I rank that would be given to people who have been raiding with us a long time. (8-12 months) That's time frame is 1-2 tiers of content depending on Blizzards development cycle. The rank would have the increased gold for repairs and more access to the tabs in the guild bank ( people who have been around awhile are less likely to ninja loot the gbank and gquit.) To keep things competitive within the raid team we could do something like: Highest average(highest top 3) dps/hps on boss fights for the week (combined average) could be put into a guild raffle contest, and the person who's name gets pulled on the raffle would win like 1k from the guild bank. idk, something a long those lines, mainly focusing on keep things friendly but still encourage competition among our raiders. What do you guys think?

I am of this opinion. I think the "core" rank needs to stay gone.

keep on track guys, we need ways to improve our current systems, not just the reasons it currently sucks.

A "Class Leader" Rank seems to be an idea. Someone who knows their class inside and out that is willing and able to help out the other members of their class. Regardless of spec. Let's get the topic back on course of how to improve the rank and it's implementation and not just reasons why it isn't working. I agree that, yes, we have progressed much farther then anyone in the guild originally thought we would, and that's due to the leadership direction Heldarram has taken the raid. It has been beneficial. That doesn't mean we have to lose sight of what has kept this guild a driving force on the server. I have seen hundreds of guilds come and go and one of the only thing that remains constant is our guild. The system as stands is a bit silly, having more then 85% of the raid team "immune" from sitting allowing no time to test trials is.... flawed. I think we need to enforce the "Boss Wish List" and make sure we swap people in and out accordingly. A Google Doc seems like it would be something worth having to better track who wants what boss, so swapping people will be seemless. And there are those players in the raid who we simply cannot sit because we NEED their dps to beat enrage timers that we currently barely beat (sha, nourshen, nazgrim, etc etc.)

we are a raiding guild and a casual guild, those are the titles we have used and it has gotten us to this point, and all these changes pushing us toward the title of Hardcore Guild is destroying the environment we worked so hard to create and maintain.

Not everyone has your personality. It IS a big deal to some people.

That's the problem we are currently having.

I have no intention of making donations to the guild bank a requirement. I realize that about half our raid team don't log into WoW outside of raid times and it isn't fair to those people who don't have time to farm. Also, keep this thread going, I like the discourse here. More focus on how to improve it though.!!

and least you all know who's in charge.

My feelings too Ansky, I just couldn't put a finger on what I felt until just now. It IS destroying our casual atmosphere. Thanks for helping figure out what I was feeling lol. for the time being, I have moved everyone back down to raider until we figure out a solution.

I am about to get rid of the system all together. It's a nice concept on paper but has and will continue to create animosity among our raiders. It's a terribly flawed system in it's current form, and your suggestion sounds like it would make things worse.

No we aren't mastric, buuuuutttt Varlash has a point and it shall be done.