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The Purchase of BF1 Servers

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  1. 1. If BF1 servers are "Official" only, meaning we cannot Ban/Kick/Move players, should we still rent servers?

    • No - Do not rent servers.
    • Yes - 1 to 3 Servers
    • Yes - 4 to 6 Servers
    • Yes - 7 to 9 Servers
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    • Yes - You're fucking crazy lets get 10+!
  2. 2. Are you buying BF1?



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HappyUnholy    320

So as we wait for an official announcement, the big question on everyone's mind is: If we are even able to rent servers, and it turns out that we can only control Maps/Rotations and a few other basic things, but cannot kick/ban/move players (get rid of the hackers/racists), what do we do?

 

At this time I'm planning on leaving all our BF4 servers up and will not make any changes to them until after BF1 has been up for a month and we see what's what. So this is only in regards to BF1 servers.

 

What are you all thinking? I'm torn between wanting to have our name out there in BF1 and getting those players and building the community, and saying fuck it and not buying servers and sticking to BF4 and having BF1 just be we invade other servers for those that buy it.

 

Right now my leaning is toward getting a few servers, even if they are just official and seeing how it goes. I don't want to completely write off BF1 already just based on a Beta. Worst case we're out a few hundred in donations for the first month, but we've budgeted for it.

 

If the not being able to kick/ban is true, then that hurts. Cheaters galore. 

 

So vote on the poll what you all are thinking and comment below!

 

Love,

Happy

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The_Real_1hit    105

I'm not rushing to buy it, but I do think we should have at a minimum 1-3. This is also depending on what one can actually do with the servers. If no admin control then I think it's a waste of money.

Hopefully we won't know at the last minute. Also Battlefront is currently with 3,500 (24hr peak) or so players on the PC in the past 24 hours, BF4 25,600 (24hr peak), and BF3 roughly 5,300.

My gut feeling is that people will stick with BF3 & 4 more than going to BF1.


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CaptShank    24

I'm keeping my order. As said before I had enough fun to keep it. Also I feel we def want to have some server's to begin with. 2-4 for me.

 

 

I'm hoping they change these rules though. There's just no need and it's wrong for the people who actually pay for a service not to have the tools to properly control that service. You can't moderate at all. It's WRONG I tell you, ITS WRONG!

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HappyUnholy    320

Thanks to our donors and our cutting costs on web and other servers we are sitting pretty when it comes to what we have available for BF1. The original plan before finding out they may be severely limiting our ability to admin servers, was to go big. So if we had the support (players buying the game and planning on being available) we could launch 10 64 player BF1 servers out the gate without asking anyone for a single penny (remember "Donation Days"? lols), and still maintain our BF4 servers for the month.

 

So really it's up to our player base on how much we want to invest to the first month of BF1 and go from there.

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asmith19323    41

if we can't kick/ban players, i don't think we should spend money on servers. as for getting our name out in BF1, do we want our name on servers that are full of bigots, racists and cheaters?

 

with that said i still plan on buying bf1 just not sure which level to get. i know for sure that i will wait to get premium until i can see how the game goes. 

 

 

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HappyUnholy    320
2 minutes ago, asmith19323 said:

if we can't kick/ban players, i don't think we should spend money on servers. as for getting our name out in BF1, do we want our name on servers that are full of bigots, racists and cheaters?

 

with that said i still plan on buying bf1 just not sure which level to get. i know for sure that i will wait to get premium until i can see how the game goes. 

 

 

 

To an extent I absolutely agree with this. At the same time though the conversation that goes on in the servers will be the same experience regardless of what servers you join. So it wouldn't be like "Oh ATR lets these people on their servers, i'm going to go to a different server where it's not allowed" because all would be the same. If that is the case where we cannot remove players, the only benefit of having our own would be if there were specific modes we wanted to have up and available for members to play on, and assuming we could still spam join us/here is our TS messages to get more members. If we can't even do that, then yeah my desire to buy servers will drop to near 0 lol.

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phxman    26

I pre-ordered and plan on giving it a try before "upgrading".  Having only seen the one Conquest map I'm very curious as to what else they have in store.

 

Having a few BF1 servers at the start seems reasonable.  If nobody plays we can dump them.

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HappyUnholy    320
Just now, morbe77 said:

What are the benefits of owning your own servers if you cant control who you kick/ban or otherwise?

 

It will depend. If we are still able to put messages out there, it basically comes down to advertising. Getting more people on our TeamSpeak, involved with our community. And of course ensuring the maps/modes our players want to play are available and popped. With just over a month to go there are a TON of questions that EA just hasn't answered. Has communities a bit worried.

 

None of the current BF4 game providers were included in the Beta, so that leaves us to believe EA will be the ones providing the servers to play on. We assume they will allow renting servers, and we'll be renting them FROM EA instead of from NFO or Gameservers etc. So EA will have some kind of server setup, we just don't know yet what settings we can control, and what admin abilities if any at all we will have. It's been leaked that they do not have the normal backend admin channels that they had on BF3 and BF4, so our present tools will not work. 

 

So the big unknowns: Can we rent servers? What server settings can we control? Will we be able to manage players (kick/kill/ban/move)? Can we yell/say messages and other things?

 

If we can't even rent, this thread becomes moot. If we can rent but have 0 control of players and no ability to get our name out aside from the server title, probably going to be bad. lol

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Varibash    131

if we have little to no control over servers, I say it's not worth it, but i feel like DICE and EA look at the numbers of players online and active daily and i am willing to bet they won't make the same mistake with BF1 that they made with Battlefront.

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CaptShank    24
1 minute ago, Varibash said:

 but i feel like DICE and EA look at the numbers of players online and active daily and i am willing to bet they won't make the same mistake with BF1 that they made with Battlefront.

 Too much credit there Bash

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HappyUnholy    320
1 minute ago, Varibash said:

if we have little to no control over servers, I say it's not worth it, but i feel like DICE and EA look at the numbers of players online and active daily and i am willing to bet they won't make the same mistake with BF1 that they made with Battlefront.

 

=D How much you wanna bet. Winnings donated to ATR. lol

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Janzstone    24

I donate every month and if all we can do is spam advertising then I think that we'd be better off talking to blueberries about ATR. Ever read /r/battlefield?  A lot of players HATE the advertising spam on servers. I think we'd be better off talking to people. Now all that said, if we have control then I say go big. If all we can do is have our name in the server listing and/or spam in game then I say save our money, get a couple for the name awareness but nothing crazy. Just my opinion though. 

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Mastric    311
27 minutes ago, Janzstone said:

I donate every month and if all we can do is spam advertising then I think that we'd be better off talking to blueberries about ATR. Ever read /r/battlefield?  A lot of players HATE the advertising spam on servers. I think we'd be better off talking to people. Now all that said, if we have control then I say go big. If all we can do is have our name in the server listing and/or spam in game then I say save our money, get a couple for the name awareness but nothing crazy. Just my opinion though. 

 

I'm not sure how ADK does it, or if we do it. But they have the option of buying in to an 'adblock' for there own messages. This would require procon, and is most likely outside the discussion of this topic.

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OONicc    47

I get the feeling that BF1 will be a great game but if this server situation is real then BF4 will still remain the dominant BattleField Game, imo.
If you remember Hardline it took a couple months, so dont rush to take down the BF4 servers. We need to keep our BF4 server for 2-3 months after BF1 comes out.

As far as BF1 servers go, just get 2 servers to start out. 1 for Rush, 1 for Conquest. After a couple months of BF1 we can make a solid decision.

Thank you for reading. I will see you guys tonight in the mixed mode server :)

- OO Nicc

p.s. xoxoxo


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HappyUnholy    320
Just now, OONicc said:

i aslo forgot to ask, yo happy, how would we seed the bf1 servers?

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo


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Not even sure if that is possible at this point.

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